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Curse of the Early Adopter: Thermostat Edition

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Posted on Dec 7 2010 by Daniel
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I really need to stop titling every post with “Title: Subtitle,” but the format just seems to suit me.  No use fighting it.

In any case, I expected to write a post on how my early adoption of a home-energy monitor like TED 5000 was a mistake when a flood of better products hit the market.  Unfortunately, a flood of better products has not hit the market, and the competitors either tend to do the exact same thing TED does, or they are astronomically expensive and require an advanced degree in nuclear physics to install.

Nope, my early adoption curse comes this time from the thermostat.  You’ll no doubt remember my battle with the auxiliary heat, a 10 kW ($1 per hour) “emergency” heater that my heat pump keeps as a backup for when it’s too cold outside to do its job.  My original programmable thermostat was switching to expensive aux heat every time it cycled, costing me between $150 and $200 each winter.

I scoured the web and found a thermostat that would solve my problems: the Globe EnerSaver Touch Screen thermostat for $120.  The thermostat has done its job fairly well, though I did end up having to disable the auxiliary heat manually for much of the year.

Now, Home Depot will begin carrying a $99 web-enabled model from a company called Radio Thermostat.  Instead of programming each day with the traditional “wake-work-return-sleep” cycle, you can manage it via the web.   It even apparently works with heat pumps, a feature that many other thermostats you find in the store don’t have.

The relationship with Home Depot and a reasonable price point are expected to draw consumers down the smart-grid/smart-home pathway. If this had been available a year ago, I’d be right there with them.

But of course, I’d never have been happy with the $99 CT30 model.  I’d demand the $199 CT80 model!  Check out those features!

  • The CT80 works with nearly every HVAC system – including traditional furnaces and heat pumps.
  • Can control 3 stages of heat and 2 stages of cool.  This allows for more precise temperature regulation and less fluctuation with today’s most sophisticated HVAC systems.
  • True Auto mode to switch automatically between heat and cool depending on environmental factors.
  • The CT80 can control an external air baffle.
  • Can also control an external humidifier AND de-humidifier.
  • You can program up to 7 independent periods per day.
  • Can monitor and control your HVAC system based on humidity as well as temperature.

7 independent periods per day?  I NEED THAT!  Running the HVAC based on humidity?  HOW HAVE I SURVIVED THIS LONG WITHOUT IT?

Yes, I’m being dramatic, but not sarcastic – this summer I was lamenting the fact that I couldn’t find a way to run the AC in a way that managed the high humidity in the house.  I would seriously use those features.

So, unless the good folks at Radio Thermostat want to send me a free sample that I can test and shamelessly plug on this website (hint hint), I’m stuck with my 2009 model thermostat that apparently doesn’t realize there’s an internet now.  Sigh…

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  • Steve

    I must say that these CT30 and CT80 thermostats and your existing Enersaver thermostat look nice. The big back lighted displays would be much easier to read than the small non-illuminated LCD display on my old Honeywell Chronotherm III. Yet I would be reluctant to install one of them on my heat pump system for several reasons.

    First off, I see in the instruction manuals for the CT30 and CT80 that they don’t have provisions for using the so called “system monitor” or “fault” signal that many heat pumps offer. In my case the adaptive defrost controller (ADC) will flash a red LED on my indoor thermostat to alert me that the heat pump coils may not be defrosting properly. In addition, that same signal wire will send a “reset” command to the ADC just by toggling the “mode” switch on the indoor thermostat between normal / auto and the emergency heat modes.

    Second, the fact that the Enersaver (not sure about the CT30/80 units) has these adjustable “deadband” and “lag” parameters suggests that the thermostat does not have a very sophisticated “recovery algorithm”. A good recovery algorithm goes a long way in minimizing the use of auxiliary heat.

    Like you, I too was struggling with my system using expensive auxiliary heat all to often. Even the best indoor thermostat recovery algorithm can’t cope with an unusually cold weather event. Yet I was also seeing my auxiliary heat come on after manually bumping the indoor set-point up just 1 degree on a mild winter day.Hmmm…..

    Then I discovered that my outdoor thermostat, which was supposed to block the activation of auxiliary heat when the outside temperature was above the thermal balance point of the system, had issues. These issues included, very poor calibration, way too much hysteresis and lousy repeatability. Once I got that resolved, the energy savings came pouring in.

  • http://www.fireflyeco.com Daniel

    You’re right that the Enersaver lacks any sophisticated recovery algorithm – I wish they’d do a firmware upgrade of some type. Another unfortunate fact is that my heat pump does not have an external thermometer that would allow it to stay away from aux heat in warm weather.

    That said, if I disable the “electric furnace” in my thermostat’s control panel (basically, disabling aux heat) the coils can still use the auxiliary heat strips for a defrost cycle. I know this, of course, because I can see the 10 kW spike in my power meter. I’m not sure the thermostat covers the fault signal that you mention, but it’s entirely possible that my HVAC is too old to have that functionality.

    When this unit dies, I’ll be very specific about which features and thermostat I get in the upgrade. Does your Honeywell stat have the heat pump specific “recovery algorithm?”

  • Steve

    Hi Daniel,

    First, thank you for all the effort you but into this site. I only found it the other day and have not had time to absorb all the good stuff you have written. Well done!

    Yes, my Honeywell Chronotherm III (model T8611G) is a very heat pump centric thermostat. It was installed by my mechanical contractor in 1999 as part of a new Trane heat pump system I purchased from him when my 1979 vintage Armstrong heat pump died. Interesting enough, the TG8611G was not the most current model of Chronotherm III thermostats in 1999. The printing date on my TG8611G owners manual is 1987. While some of the other contractors I got bids from were promoting the newer versions, my contractor refused to sell me anything but the old TG8611G. He said the recovery algorithm in the (then) newer model was getting too much negative feedback from customers, so he was sticking with the old tried-n-true TG8611G.

    What you have done by manually disabling your indoor thermostat from activating aux heat is sound, simple and cost effective. If you would like to automate things, adding an outdoor thermostat (ODT) can be pretty easy. The trick is in finding a decent ODT and then making sure it’s located properly (i.e. in the shade and not so close the heat pump that it makes false readings). As you see fit, send me an email and I can try and help.

    While I’m pretty happy with the system I have now, I too have a growing list of thing I will want when it comes time to replace my existing system. Maybe we can compare notes :)

    Thank again,

    Steve

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